
● Pediatric Sustainability Measure Proposals:
● Do current MPOG sustainability measure specifications accurately apply to the pediatric
population?
Considerations:
■ Unique aspects of induction that would warrant peds specific metrics?
■ Include or exclude short cases < 30min? Note: Subgroup recommended
including all cases regardless of duration.
■ Unique aspects of maintenance that would affect sustainability metrics
in peds?
■ Induction/maintenance definitions: current version acceptable or
consider different definitions for peds?
■ Peds age definition appropriate at <18 or should <12 be considered
‘pediatric population’ for sustainability?
● Discussion:
Bishr Haydar via chat (MPOG Pediatric Subcommittee Chair): Do we adjust this by
altitude?
Vikas O’Reilly-Shah via chat (Seattle Children’s): What if inspired not reported? We only
record expired, but use that for our internal work on this topic led by Liz Hansen locally.
■ Nirav Shah via chat (MPOG Quality Director): thanks vikas… currently
we are not including expired to enable comparisons across sites. have
worked with sites to obtain this data over time…
Charles Schrock via chat (St. Louis Children’s): This is a tight parameter. Currently I have
same GWP running at 4% times 1 liter/min in an adult size child to maintain system
FiSevo of 2.8 and FeSevo of 2.3. Uptake and distribution is a problem during
maintenance of bigger peds patients
Bishr Haydar via chat (MPOG Pediatric Subcommittee Chair): There was an outstanding
"Pediatric Anesthesia Article of the Day" newsletter item on induction, referencing a
great article with tips for all phases of case.
Charles Schrock via chat (St. Louis Children’s): Does the GWP value factor in the
atmospheric lifetime?
■ Vikas O’Reilly-Shah (Seattle Children’s): Yes
Vikas O’Reilly-Shah via chat (Seattle Children’s): We've certainly had a lot of success
pushing our GWP down dramatically by disconnecting nitrous hoses (tanks available if
really needed); dropping default flows from 8 to 3; in-Epic flow reminders have helped a
lot. Really haven’t had many issues with these approaches. Would recommend using
expired agent if inspired agent is not available. Liz Hansen is largely leading these efforts
at our site. One other really insane thing she found -- our nitrous use went way down
but our purchasing stayed relatively high -- apparently nitrous tanks have a built in
"feature" where they slowly leak!!
■ David Waisel via chat (Yale): VIkas, I think I'd like to try the disconnect
nitrous approach. Do you know what other institutions do that?
1. Vikas O’Reilly-Shah via chat (Seattle Children’s): I don't know if
other institutions do it, but our department on the adult side at